Friday Heavy: July 8, 2022

Cliff: Welcome to Friday Heavy. Your guide to the world of loud music that is usually aggressive and abrasive and, and other things that, uh, make people look at us weird when we tell them that we like it brought to you by the people behind tune dig. I’m cliff.

Kyle: and I’m still Kyle each episode we cover three things. Expediently if at all possible one brand new release and why we think it’ll be worth a spin one brand new release, specifically in the world of heavy and loud and abrasive and adjectives music.

As cliff said secondly, one playlist we’ve curated to explore a heavy sub genre or artists or scene got another one I’m excited about today. And third one organization doing critical culture impacting work in their community, cuz that’s what punk rock is all about, baby. Let’s get into it. Cliff hit me with a little bit of a, a left fielder, a band, I didn’t know, on, on this one.

Cliff: Yeah, we don’t take too many wild shots, but this one felt like a good one. And, I love that we can not only bring in maybe a less known band in the. But also one that has clearly just like figured out how to split the uprights so well that people would like to sign them up for a record deal,

which is sick. Today, we’re talking about vomit fourth and their new release today, seething malevolence. And you’re already getting the idea from all the words that I just said in that, in that collection. but so vomit fourth is out of Connecticut and doing just like goddamn death metal, just modern death metal.

That’s I, that

Kyle: I hope that they hear this and they put that on a shirt.

Cliff: I would love that I would wear that.

Kyle: I would, I would

Cliff: Vomit forth, God damn death metal, just to kind of immediately set the stage, like you’re gonna draw from a lot of the modern death scene in general here. Like whether it’s UN death or a band, like full of hell, who’s pushing into more the noise territory.

Clearly they are huge fans of napalm death which we see pretty quickly, not only in their music, but also in their interviews, but then also like one thing to draw here in case we need to. Bring in someone from left field. This is very silent circus era between the buried and me as well. Like I hear a lot of the guitar tone, riffs drumming cuz you know, that was a plea pre Blake drummer release from BT bam.

Anyway. And so there, there’s kind of a wide range of coverage here. that’s drawing in death metal trying to make it weird and a little bit different than.

Kyle: and yes, obviously that’s personal bias creeping in hearing BTBM cliff. How many times would you venture to say you’ve seen the band between the buried and me live in concert?

Cliff: Adventure to say that I’ve affirmatively definitely seen them more than 40 times. I think I’ve crossed 50, but I can’t be sure yet.

Kyle: Love it

Cliff: this is my life and I get to do what I want to do. So, the vocalist of vomit forth, whose name is Kane. I, I just wanna read a couple of things from them, cuz I, I think it’ll help position

Kyle: like the wrestler, not the candy.

Cliff: So he said, we, we felt like people were hopping in that didn’t necessarily like the death metal genre. And he said, you know, modern death metal needs to be more than this archetypal arche. Typical. Is that what he says here? Archetypal, Neanderthal, dumb down sound.

We want to add something real and challenging to the genre and make it more legitimate. which, uh, I mean, shots fired saying that most death metal isn’t legit. To begin with. So I’m already kind of into this

Kyle: When I read that quote, when you shared that quote, it made me think of, every, like this happened in black metal, 10 or 12 years ago, and the liturgy guy wrote that whole screen and it was like, he looked like a Seinfeld character or whatever. It’s just as weird as the people who are too earnestly committed to metal for metal’s sake are the people who do metal ironically.

Um, so I appreciate the little bit of intelligent distance here from Kane in the band.

Cliff: Canne would also say there’s a specific Northeastern sound that you hear with bands like suffocation and internal bleeding and Peria, and there’s not too many bands doing that. And he says, we wanna put.

East coast sound back on the map. And like, I am just here for death, metals, little tiny version of.

coast battles. Okay. Cuz I get it and I totally know what they’re referring to and it’s true. And you can really hear it here. but even beyond what they think of themselves, right? Like even Blaber mouth, describe this new record from bomb at forth as death metal done properly and with, with utmost conviction and that’s all you can possibly expect out of a death metal review.

Kyle: yeah. Right on.

Cliff: Yeah. So we’ll cover two of the singles today. There are three out right now. you know, we like to make a joke a lot that, uh, on this idea of a podcast doing 32nd snippets of singles is a absolute fools errand for the genre bending that we tend to do, that’s not really gonna be the case here. Uh, these singles are gonna point you right in the correct direction without too much imagination required.

So the first thing that we’ll hit on is called OUS incantation. So again, we are, we are extremely on brand the whole.

Yeah.

Kyle: Just, you can only hear it in a guttural. The song is called type voice from the stage. The song is OUS in implantation.

Cliff: that track was referred to you as well in another, you as such a monstrous burst of noise, which is probably the correct environment, uh, to be

Kyle: Also gruesome vocal slurry, which sounds like a thing that you order at dairy queen, which is tight

Cliff: Uh, next step we’ll play another single predatory

Kyle: another predatory predatory savior.

Cliff: this will begin to hint at a little bit of a broader approach in some of their music. Cause not to overstate it. Modern death metal. Isn’t just straightforward death metal, or it wouldn’t really be modern. You’ve gotta have not only a new approach to production.

But you’ve gotta have a tip of the hat to all the old stuff while figuring out how to integrate the new type of stuff you want to do. And that’s, what’s creating so many of these. Sub sub genres we’re talking about now where, you know, hardcore kids push into one of those angles or another, and you end up with really weird interludes or really proggy stuff, or really ambient drone type stuff thrown on top of it.

But predatory savior here is gonna give you a little bit of some of that. But also also is gonna hit, hit on the rifts pretty hard.

Kyle: So if you’re into those and we very much hope you are, please check out seething malevolence out today on century media records. Go listen to it. However you please, and then very importantly, send this band, your money through shows at which they will. Gutterly tell you the names of the titles before they play them.

Hopefully. cops of merch. I haven’t seen their merch yet, but with a name like vomit forth, I can almost assure beyond a shadow of a doubt that it will be tight or a direct donation, DM them folks and be like, what’s your Venmo? The next.

Cliff: That’s always the move and the next move is always the move, which is me going Kyle. So you always make a playlist about a thing that we talk about on the podcast, and I’m always like, I don’t really understand how this is gonna lead anywhere. and then you give me some sort of slammer that I end up putting into headphones and, and, uh, eviscerating everything in my general presence, uh, after I listen to it.

So

Kyle: I was really excited. I knew that I’d, I’d really nailed it. When you texted back I will play this on the mountain when it’s snowing and I’m snowboarding. Oh yeah. All right. I did it. I was not necessarily super keen on trying to push into another death metal thing right after just a few episodes after we did decapitated, And I, I didn’t want to try to lean too heavily on you for a here’s what a modern death metal.

I, I, don’t just, I don’t have it as nuanced and understanding as you do, but absolutely agree with everything you said. Um, but something clicked when you sent me the album trailer on YouTube. It. Reminded me of a Rob zombie film. And it made clear to me instantly that they’re hidden at something different.

And that sent me off in a direction. And the quote that you just shared from Kane, the vocalist validates that that, aesthetic is just as important as sound when it comes to setting a heavy band apart and lots of heavy bands try to be scary or repulsive. And most of the time just wind up. pure and, and weird and not, not repulsive in the cool way. but there’s a genuinely insidious thing happening with vomit forth. Like they, they leave me feeling about five degrees, a skew. So basically this is a collection of stuff that sonically, I think there’s a lot of similarity with 75%, but with the other 25%.

And the whole thing in total, it’s unsettling in the best way. And it’s designed to leave you feeling a little off your access. You know, it’s got tiny temps tip through tiptoe to, through the tulips in it. so you’re always in for a little bit of a fucked up time when that gets thrown into the middle of the proceedings.

Um, but it’s fun to have the birthday party, Nick Cave’s birthday party and death grips on a playlist alongside some of. Absolute nastiest, riffing and production possible. The closing track from nails abandon all life and the song, black breath by repulsion and all sorts of really nasty stuff.

Two things I would call out on this one in particular that are just like personal for you and me things. don’t sleep on the heaviest song. He has legend ever, ever wrote serpent sickness or a son’s bathy homage from black one, which is complete with vocals, literally recorded inside a coffin. And if you’re interested in more on that story, go find our black one episode of tune dig, which is still one of my favorite things I learned while preparing to record an episode of that podcast.

Cliff: Yep. We went hard on that episode. Yeah. To me the MVP is the last five songs, like edge of sanity, DSI, throbbing, gristle, God speed. You black emperor. And then the sun track you’re talking about now we are here to inflate you with cred and we have done it yet again on this playlist.

You’re welcome.

Kyle: the edge of sanity song, title sums up what this playlist kind is. And that’s hell is where the heart.

Cliff: Thank you for that, Kyle, your playlists are a blessing upon us all. So this week, we wanna talk about another organization that’s doing important work in their community. And we’re gonna be hitting on something that’s a little bit closer to our geographic literal home. It’s it is relentless to try to always align this with the current reality of American politics.

So we try to hit on that when we can. But it’s important to remember. The other stuff is always going on behind the scenes too. It is just, it’s endless. But we wanna start out with one thing in particular and that’s that Atlanta is known as a city in a forest, and we wanna talk about the importance of trees.

And then we wanna tell you about trees, Atlanta, uh, really long running non-profit who’s done awesome work in our hometown, but Atlanta’s known as a city and a forest because we Serious tree coverage. I mean, I know that that’s really obvious, but think about the metropolitan areas you’re in, they’re not like Atlanta, literally.

There are a lot of different estimates, but we’ve got roughly 50% tree canopy coverage in the city.

Kyle: And if you’ve ever flown into Hartsfield Jackson international airport, we don’t have to tell you right. If you’ve ever been laid over in Atlanta, you’ve seen it. It’s green, it’s unusually green when you fly into the city. So

Cliff: Yep. And obviously that like lush tree canopy filters out pollutants and it cools buildings and it cools sidewalks in streets. And so that tree canopy. I can’t believe we have to say it. The tree canopy is under attack. Good grief by two specific things, right. Which are constantly wreaking havoc on our collective reality.

In general, one of them is climate change, obviously. And the other one. Is police so real quick for that latter bit, because this is very Atlanta. And I’m very glad to see that it has both on Twitter and Reddit and in some other places, like the story has continued to pick back up and gained some notoriety.

So other folks can know what’s going on here. But we, we do want you to know, first of all, about a grassroots effort to prevent the Atlanta police department from literally wrecking 300 acres of historic forest. Just a few miles from where I live over in entrenchment Creek.

Kyle: For context, central park is half that we’re talking about two central parks bro. 300 acres.

Cliff: And what they want to do, um, with that 300 acres is build a new massive training facility to learn how to do cop shit better. Which I don’t know, we kind of don’t want but even aside from that purpose, cuz like, it’s. It’s gonna be a long and uphill battle to have cities, literally not letting police officers train.

we understand the realism of that, but so the, the main issue currently is that even though this has been theoretically. Approved and gotten feedback from people the Atlanta police department and its foundation, and the people involved in this project have engaged in like really shady behavior, literally trying to fool the public, literally ignoring basic built in processes.

Uh, literally ignoring large mountains of feedback. From the public and in neighborhoods and organizations around the area who all say, this is just a really terrible way to go about this problem. There are a lot of better ways to handle the fact that the police might need a better training facility where we don’t have to give up a historic forest.

And so we, we did wanna bring attention to that. And so if you wanna learn more about that, go to defend the Atlanta forest.org or actually just on Twitter search, the hashtag stop cop city. That’s.

Kyle: And you can go to stop cop.city as.

Cliff: Nice. Yeah, but it’s been a real grassroots and organic effort from a lot of people who are doing a lot of work every day to figure out how to destabilize this project, because it’s, it’s quite literally being done against all of our collective wills. If you look into it you’ll understand more of what we mean by that and that that’s not just.

Our opinion, everything’s on the record and just got ignored anyway. So moving beyond how police are destroying everything, lets go back to climate change. The other enemy that we always have, one Atlanta based organization has been working to mitigate Atlanta’s tree loss since. 1985. Okay. Trees, Atlanta. I is a, a 5 0 5 0 1 C three nonprofit.

Like we always try to cover here and they’re empowered by a community of volunteers and they protect and improve our forest by planting and conserving and educating folks about the tree canopy. So to date trees, Atlanta has planted or cared for more. 150,000 trees in Metro Atlanta. And if you’ve ever visited Atlanta, if you’ve ever visited our city and walked around, used the path, used the belt line, pretty much just gone anywhere into a public park, whatever you’ve seen them you could not avoid them.

If you tried, they’re everywhere. They’re out, literally

smiling at you as you walk. Taking care of plants, just like being super nice and being really helpful. And they protect and plant the plants in the ecosystem that we really take for granted. And so in their own words, I wanted to bring forward something.

Trees, Atlanta felt was important. They said living in an urban forest comes with a lot of advantages. In addition to the aesthetic value trees, improve air quality, they help to conserve energy through cooling. They reduce storm, water runoff, they mitigate noise pollution. They provide shelter for wildlife and studies have highlighted the link between trees and green space and physical and mental wellbeing.

Urban nature has a calming effect on us while also encouraging learning and inquisitiveness and mental alertness. The presence of trees helps us to helps to enhance our community and increase property values, which that last part that’s fine. If that works out for people, uh, we want people to be able to make money, uh, in the way that people build generational wealth.

Yes, but that’s not our primary concern. Trees help us in a lot of ways beyond just making sure that our home value goes up every year. So the collective nature of not only what we’re doing to protect the forest, but also what organizations like trees, Atlanta are doing to proactively protect it from a, a number of variables, including climate change is super critical and it literally makes our city.

Kyle: organization Atlanta proactively protect it from a number of they’re super critical and literally makes our sense. Yeah, whatever your motivation, we need trees bad, bro. Everyone should be able to agree on that. So we encourage you to learn more about this organization at trees, atlanta.org, and. If you’re so inclined to consider becoming a donor to help save the Atlanta forest, or if you more than likely don’t live in or around Atlanta or.

Don’t care to support a city. You don’t live in look for your local equivalent in climate justice, because we can promise you that it exists. And we can also say beyond a shadow of a doubt, this issue affects you at your local neighborhood level where some of these may not touch you directly.

This one absolutely unequivocally does. And especially in ways that you may not even be aware of. It’s definitely a topic worth finding your local expert and champion and Crusader on because they are guaranteed to blow your mind. They’re gonna teach you things about the neighborhood that you live in that, that are number three will shock you so to speak.

And that person absolutely exists and is probably plugged into a great organization. And this is one where, where hyper local. Pays off too. We’re talking about the city of Atlanta. I live a little bit outside the city, look for somebody in your neighborhood unit, in your HOA, whatever, wherever you live in the world, no judgment.

Just make sure that the tree canopy is cared for. Because we are shit outta luck without it

Cliff: Yep.

Make

Kyle: Anything, else before we depart?

Cliff: Nope, but I love that. Make friends with your local outdoor education major. Give them the new vomit fourth record and let them listen to it while they are climbing and saving your trees. that’s the way to go.

Kyle: at risk.

Cliff: there.

Kyle: song.

Cliff: this has been Friday heavy. We’ll see you

Kyle: Peace

Cliff: Go to tunedig.com or follow us on Instagram and Twitter for links to the new release, the playlist and the organization that we talked about today.